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on Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:05 am Agua75
I must say this one is more of a challenge, no wonder it is still unsolved 
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I have tried different moves and I'm still not seeing a overall win.
The move with most options still producing a win for White that I've seen is :
1. fg5 hh6 2. fg7 ?. Most moves I see after for black looks like a lose, except if black responds with :
hg5 3. gh8 fe4 4. hf6 fe3 5. fh4 fe7 6. hd8 ef2 7. ge3 df2 and I see no win for white
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I want help with this one
.I have tried different moves and I'm still not seeing a overall win.
The move with most options still producing a win for White that I've seen is :
1. fg5 hh6 2. fg7 ?. Most moves I see after for black looks like a lose, except if black responds with :
hg5 3. gh8 fe4 4. hf6 fe3 5. fh4 fe7 6. hd8 ef2 7. ge3 df2 and I see no win for white
. I want help with this one
on Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:25 am Agua75
Thanks a lot Sir Jake, will look at it now
on Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:39 am Agua75
The moves I am seeing are :
1. gh4 cb4 2. fg7 fh6 3. fg5 hf4 4. cd2 ce1 5. ag3 hf4 6. gf2 eg3 7. hf2 and white wins. very nice play Sir Jake, thanks for the start
1. gh4 cb4 2. fg7 fh6 3. fg5 hf4 4. cd2 ce1 5. ag3 hf4 6. gf2 eg3 7. hf2 and white wins
. very nice play Sir Jake, thanks for the start
on Sat Dec 07, 2013 10:05 am Agua75
Here it is Sir Jake :
1. gh4 cd2 2. ce3 df2 3. ge3 and the follow up moves for black are :
hg1 4. fe5 gd4 5. ec3 cb4 6. cd4 ba3 7. de5 ab2 8. ed6 ba1 9. fe7 and white will win with 4 pieces against 1 as 3 are across the Mother line and are all potential kings.
If fe7 4. fd8 hg1 5. de7 gd4 6. ea3 and white wins with 4 pieces against 1.
If cb4 4. ac3 hg1 5. cd4 gh2 6. fg5 he5 (if hf4 7. gh6 fc1 or fd2 8. fg7 and white wins with 4 pieces against 2). 7. dc5 eg7 8. cd6 gh6 9. ef4 fg7 10. fe5 he3 11. dc7 ed2 (if eg1 12. cb8 and white move to win with 3 kings) 11. cd8 as white proceed to win with 3 kings by again protecting piece at e5 from being eaten.
1. gh4 cd2 2. ce3 df2 3. ge3 and the follow up moves for black are :
hg1 4. fe5 gd4 5. ec3 cb4 6. cd4 ba3 7. de5 ab2 8. ed6 ba1 9. fe7 and white will win with 4 pieces against 1 as 3 are across the Mother line and are all potential kings.
If fe7 4. fd8 hg1 5. de7 gd4 6. ea3 and white wins with 4 pieces against 1.
If cb4 4. ac3 hg1 5. cd4 gh2 6. fg5 he5 (if hf4 7. gh6 fc1 or fd2 8. fg7 and white wins with 4 pieces against 2). 7. dc5 eg7 8. cd6 gh6 9. ef4 fg7 10. fe5 he3 11. dc7 ed2 (if eg1 12. cb8 and white move to win with 3 kings) 11. cd8 as white proceed to win with 3 kings by again protecting piece at e5 from being eaten.
on Sat Dec 07, 2013 10:18 am Admin
Again Agua - you do not think "kill", you generalize in the concrete position!
Let's examine your lines:
1. gh4 cd2 2. ce3 df2 3. ge3 and the follow up moves for black are :
hg1 4. fe5 gd4 5. ec3 cb4 6. cd4 ba3 7. de5 ab2 8. ed6 ba1 9. fe7 and white will win with 4 pieces against
Start at the end - after fe7 black move fg7, then gh6 then hg5 and draw - you did not count, you generalized.
But step back - why do you save checkers with 7. de5, why not simply kill with fe7 and dc5?
Next example:
If cb4 4. ac3 hg1 5. cd4 gh2 6. fg5 he5 (if hf4 7. gh6 fc1 or fd2 8. fg7 and white wins with 4 pieces against 2). 7. dc5 eg7 8. cd6 gh6 9. ef4 fg7 10. fe5 he3 11. dc7 ed2 (if eg1 12. cb8 and white move to win with 3 kings) 11. cd8 as white proceed to win with 3 kings by again protecting piece at e5 from being eaten.
Why count all these long endings when 5.ed4, fg7 and cd4 wins instantly?
Be sharp! Look to kill!
Let's examine your lines:
1. gh4 cd2 2. ce3 df2 3. ge3 and the follow up moves for black are :
hg1 4. fe5 gd4 5. ec3 cb4 6. cd4 ba3 7. de5 ab2 8. ed6 ba1 9. fe7 and white will win with 4 pieces against
Start at the end - after fe7 black move fg7, then gh6 then hg5 and draw - you did not count, you generalized.
But step back - why do you save checkers with 7. de5, why not simply kill with fe7 and dc5?
Next example:
If cb4 4. ac3 hg1 5. cd4 gh2 6. fg5 he5 (if hf4 7. gh6 fc1 or fd2 8. fg7 and white wins with 4 pieces against 2). 7. dc5 eg7 8. cd6 gh6 9. ef4 fg7 10. fe5 he3 11. dc7 ed2 (if eg1 12. cb8 and white move to win with 3 kings) 11. cd8 as white proceed to win with 3 kings by again protecting piece at e5 from being eaten.
Why count all these long endings when 5.ed4, fg7 and cd4 wins instantly?
Be sharp! Look to kill!
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